One on One: Building Community Across Borders with Jon Chang, Kickstarter

Link to podcast episode. DMN podcast by Hilary Adler.

In a great conversation over drinks, Jon and I talked about the state of marketing as it pertains to community building, political engagement, and connecting to consumers across divisive borders. We didn't set up the podcast beforehand, and recorded onsite at SMWNYC, so what we present is a rare and candid discussion about the industry -- my favorite kind of podcast.